I listened to the entire program (2-8-26), with this response:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Can we have any influence whatsoever on hell
— by thinking and considering another view (other than what is clear in the Bible)
— by meeting with a few intellectual theologians
— by listening to debate with courtesy and respect
— as though we might settle on new doctrine that the Bible settled when God wrote it ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
The Bible ends up on a par with theologians (past or present) and church ‘fathers’ and revered leaders through church history.
‘We’ think we can get together and discuss any subject with openness to assorted ideas, with respect to those who disagree.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
–<\/p>\n\n\n\n
“I’m not convinced . . .”—–Kirk Cameron<\/p>\n\n\n\n
“. . . It seems to me . . .”—–Kirk Cameron<\/p>\n\n\n\n
[summarizing] “I think . . .”—–Kirk Cameron<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Some of the most dangerous things Kirk Cameron said—with the most dangerous impact on anyone not well-grounded in the Bible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
“I can’t wrap my mind around a loving God Who . . .”—–Kirk Cameron empathizing, identifying with what college kids say.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
–<\/p>\n\n\n\n
We see a tsunami upon us of rampant, raging caving to any ‘new’ ways of looking at God’s clear Word.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
If we don’t let the Bible speak clearly and settle issues for ourselves, then anyone can come along and sway us from the narrow way with ideas from hell, not from the Bible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
–<\/p>\n\n\n\n
“Points on the board”—–Kirk Cameron, responding to a telling point on the other side of the debate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Friendly conversation, debate, contest to get a winner ???
What ?
What a joke, what a mockery you have made of the Word of God—subservient to your ‘discussion’ with what some people had to say.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
“Robust arguments on both sides”—–Kirk Cameron<\/p>\n\n\n\n
We can never settle this (and a host of other debates) by “robust arguments”.
It is very dangerous to raise issues, and then debate, and in so doing create doubt about black and white basics in the Bible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Your panel obviously did not decide or settle this question.
Only the Bible can do that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
–<\/p>\n\n\n\n
-X- So, what good did your civil panel discussion accomplish?
-X- So, what good did the civil conversation between Frank Turek and Kirk Cameron accomplish ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Answer to both questions:
Accomplished nothing good.
Caused extensive damage.
Both give many people the belief that we can invent all kinds of spiritual ideas not in the Bible—and talking about them gives validity and credence.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
And,
Manipulating anything in the Bible,
And,
Manufacturing anything not in the Bible,
Can send you to hell (regardless of how long ‘you think’ hell is).<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Does it matter how long ‘you think’ hell is ?
Yes, Yes !
It matters !
It is foolish !
It is ridiculous !
It is dangerous !
It is evil, damning !
It is so misleading !
It is a waste of time !
It is a waste of air time !
It is a waste of our thinking !
It elevates intellect to idolatry ! ! !
It is damning, distracting, detracting
to attempt to tamper with the Word of God with our puny minds !<\/p>\n\n\n\n
“PREACH THE WORD !”<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"
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